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Do you love me?

In Bethany North,God's calling,God's great love,Jesus on May 1, 2013 by scottsund Tagged: , ,

do you love me?

God loves each of us,
as if there were only one of us.

~ Augustine

Lately I’ve been haunted by this question from Jesus in the gospels:  “Do you love me?”  At the time, Jesus was speaking to Peter.  Jesus had already died a horrific death and come back to life.  Jesus was appearing to his disciples along the shore of the Sea of Galilee.  He gave them the greatest fishing tip in the history of humankind “Try the other side of the boat!”  And they do it- and they almost break their net the fish are so numerous.  And then Jesus, being the Son of God, made them breakfast.  And over breakfast, with a fire probably crackling at their feet, their bellies full of fresh cooked fish and bread, turns to Peter and asked the fateful question:  “Do you love me?”

For Jesus, He didn’t couch the question with first declaring His own love for the disciples.  They already knew He loved them.  They saw Him wash their feet.  They saw Him hanging on a cross.  They saw Him come alive and serve them breakfast.  They saw the look of love on His face.  Once they knew of Jesus love for them, their identity as beloved was forged.  Nothing could shake their knowledge that Jesus loved them.

I’ve been thinking of God’s love lately.  Heather asked me the other day, “What are your favorite verses on God’s love?”  And I’m embarrassed to say this, but my mind went blank________________________________.   God’s love?  Hmm….let me think about that.  I can tell you all about sin and the wages and the death that resulted from Romans 1/3/6.  I can tell you my personal favorite anchor verse from James 4:8 “Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.”  I can remind you from Genesis we’re made in the image of God, I can quote you pithy thoughts of wisdom from Proverbs and remind you of Moses and the great journey of Israel in Exodus.  There are of course the love verses from 1 Corinthians (“Love is patient and kind”) and 1 John (“we love because God first loved us”) but these mostly remind me of wedding ceremonies.  What verses remind me daily of God’s love?  Of His unconditional embrace?  Of His absolute delight in me?

How do I remember that no matter what I do, God already loves me?  How do I remind myself when I so easily forget that before anything else, I am already God’s beloved son?  Hmmm.  Truth is, I need more reminders that God loves me.  I need to write those verses on cards and stare at them each day.

Lately my oldest daughter’s nightly prayers have turned towards forgiveness.  She prays for her to be forgiven of all the bad things she has done.  Every-single-night.  After she prays, I then pray for her- out loud- “God, may my daughter know every night that you love her.  That You accept her.  That she is so good in Your eyes.”  And then I remind my daughter- God’s love is like my love- only way, way better.  I want my kids to KNOW they are loved by God and loved by their dad.   I think on my spiritual pursuits and often I’m running/clinging/pursuing Jesus and working so hard to do the things that I know God wants me to be about.  But what about my heart?

I was talking with a friend at church last month and he told me that he was struggling.  “What’s up?” I asked.
“I’m not sure why, but my heart isn’t feeling God at all.  Its all numb and void.”

I ran into this same guy Sunday after the church service.  “God answered my prayers!” he said.  “I’m feeling God’s love again.”

“Wow, that’s great,” I said.  “That means He’s answered my prayers too.  I’ve been praying for your heart.”

The truth is, we all need to reminded that God loves us.  Love does.  Love is.  Love wins.  We are good in God’s eyes.  We are loved.  Not because we do for others.  But because He first loved us.

Here are some great reminders this week that YOU are loved by God Himself. 

This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.   Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.”
– 1 John 4:10-12

 “But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.”
– Ephesians 2:4-5

“The Lord your God is in your midst,
a mighty one who will save;
he will rejoice over you with gladness;
he will quiet you by his love;
he will exult over you with loud singing.”
– Zephaniah 3:17

“Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.”
– 1 John 4:7-8

“But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness.”
-Psalm 86:15

“I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.”
-Galatians 2:20

“ Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you,casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.”
-1 Peter 5:6-7

May you feel the weight of God’s love today.  It covers you.  Before you’ve done a single thing. God loves you.  Period.  What reminds you of God’s great love?



Eat my what?

In Bethany North,God's calling,Jesus,Struggles with faith on March 14, 2013 by scottsund Tagged: , , ,

Have you seen this video?  It’s a little boy getting cochlear implants and hearing his mother’s voice for the first time.  Think about that.  Your mother’s voice for the first time.  Unless you had never heard your mother’s voice- you wouldn’t understand.

We’ve been talking about Jesus lately at church…I know, I know…crazy right?  But think about this.:  Jesus says “I am the light of the world.”  That is only good news if you had no light or you had never seen.  Jesus says “I am the bread of life” and that is only good news if you were hungry.  It got me thinking- what do we actually need Jesus for?  And how does Jesus help a community that doesn’t need Him?  Unless we recognize our brokenness and low places- we’ll never need a Savior.  Early in Jesus ministry He went home to continue to heal people and do some of the miracles He had been performing in other places.  But they didn’t need Him- they didn’t recognize Him as anything other than “Mary and Joseph’s boy.”  And then the scriptures tell us in Luke 4: Jesus left.  Because if a community doesn’t need Him, Jesus takes His presence elsewhere.

I don’t know about you- but I’ve been especially aware lately that I need a savior.  Not in a religious, pastor type way.  But in a broken, “I’m not quite good enough” type way.  No, I can’t do life very good on my own.  I need help often to cling to the hope in this broken world.  To cling to peace in my own interior life that can feel such anguish and stress.  Yes I’m the broken.  I’m the deaf.  I’m the poor in spirit.  I’m the hungry.

bread of life wonderbreadThis last Sunday we took a look at this weird passage in John 6 where Jesus says, “I am the bread of life” and then encourages His followers to “Eat my flesh and drink My blood”.  You can find the passage here.  To be sure, it’s a hard passage to understand.  Imagine hearing this message from Jesus.  Eat flesh.  Drink blood.  Bread of life.  What does it mean?  And better yet, who can do it???  Who can possibly follow the guidelines of this new brand of religion?  This man Jesus must be crazy!   How can I possibly do everything right to follow Him?

The genius here on Jesus part is simply this:  I can’t.  I can’t do it.  I can’t eat the flesh and drink the blood.  Jesus moves from Law “do these things and all will be ok” to a purely impractical statement.  Why???  Why does Jesus sometimes talk like this?  Because you can’t do it on your own!  We need Jesus to enter into the best life possible.

In this passage Jesus had just taken 5 fish and 2 loaves of bread and in a miracle, He fed literally thousands of people.  How does this work?  Because Jesus ushers in a new economy where 5 fish + 2 loaves= ENOUGH.  God’s economy doesn’t make sense to me.  Its not balanced budget- it’s the radical grace of God.  This doesn’t make sense to me and so I cling to my radical self-sufficiency.  I doubt that Jesus can take the 5 fish and 2 loaves of my spiritual life and weave it into something beautiful.  So I feel slow to trust Him.  And then I finally realize- my “economy” that makes such logical sense – really isn’t working for me.  Trusting myself and my own ends leads me to places of feeling bankrupt.  And in these places I yell out to God: ‘I can’t do this!”  I cry out and I fail and then I cling to Him.  Perhaps this is what Jesus means- He is the bread of life.  Because on my own I just always feel hungry.  But when I’m following Jesus I have a wholeness, a fullness, not of my own strength but of His.

I’ll be preaching about this need for Jesus a bit this Sunday at Bethany North at 9:15 and 11- if you’re in town you should stop by.  Maybe we could do this journey together.


Gratitude: The Important Choice

In God's calling,grateful,Spiritual Practices on April 18, 2012 by scottsund Tagged: , , ,

Choosing to be grateful.  Sounds great- but often like a Hallmark card or a bumper sticker, without context and without framework, it feels annoyingly simplistic.  Choose gratitude?  “But I have so much anxiety right now.”  “But there is so much to worry about right now.”  “But there are real problems that need real fixes and simply “being grateful” isn’t going to fix anything.”  But…but…but.

The power of gratitude is that it can’t always whitewash the real challenges or heartaches or stresses in our life, but it helps keep those things at the periphery instead of in the center.  When we dwell in gratitude, we allow God to stay in the center of our focus and attention and keep those things that need worrying about on the edge, where we can actually keep them in their healthy perspective.  Because at least for me, when I center on my problems and my anxieties instead of centering on God, I become fairly worthless in regards to being a blessing in the world.

Being grateful is like choosing to dwell in the blessings of the everyday instead of drowning in the minutia of what’s not well.  Remember in Philippians…Paul says: God is near.  Yes God is near.  He is here.  It is the power of the resurrection we celebrated so mightily at Easter.  Jesus died and came alive to bring us real life here and now- not just when we die.  And because He left His spirit here, we know that God is in this place.  We see markers of God’s presence at every good and joyful thing on earth.  Anything good here on Earth?  That sunrise, the laugh of my two-year old, the kiss from a lover, the first beat of a new album…its all from HIM.

So choose gratitude.  Choose to be joyful.  Choose to look at the positive and not center on the negative.  Yes your life is an unfinished work.  Yes you have challenges.  Yes things are not ideal.  They never will be.  Not here on earth, because we live in an age that though the Spirit is here, God isn’t finished with this place yet.  Someday, the book of Revelation tells us, God will wipe every tear from our eye and there will be no more weeping and no more heartache.  But until then, we live in a real world that has challenges.  But the sooner you can be grateful for what you have, for who you are, for what God created  you to do here and now, peace will reign in your life.

The bible tells us to be grateful.  1 Thessalonians tells us “give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.”  Why is this God’s will?  Same reason I teach my kids to be thankful for their meals, or a gift from a friend.  Because gratitude becomes a gateway to thankfulness and thankfulness becomes a gateway to joy.  Want to meet truly joyful people in the world?  They are those that are thankful and grateful for each friend, for special day, for each small blessing in their life.  Simply put: gratitude teaches us to live richer lives.

Sunday our head pastor RD preached on this and showed this powerful clip from Louie Schwartberg’s TED talk.  The whole video is good but if you are in a rush, skip ahead to 3:58 into the video to see a short video piece on GRATITUDE.  Trust me…you will be thankful you spent the few minutes watching it.

May you be showered with good things.  And may you give thanks for it all.


Letter to a Latte Lady

In Christian Ethics,God's calling,Keeping it Real on March 23, 2012 by scottsund Tagged: ,

There is a weird trend in the county where I now live of having half-naked women serving coffee in the drive through coffee stands.  Perhaps where you live there is a criminal code preventing this or perhaps common sense prevents this near you, but in my zip code, half-naked baristas are all the rage.  How do you differentiate your otherwise commonplace drive through coffee stand?  Have women in lingerie serving the lattes!  I can only imagine the first genius to make this observation.  Want to know the sad thing?  It works.  Drive past the lingerie ladies coffee stand most mornings and there is a line of idling cars.  Want to know the even sadder thing?  Worse than the actual customers lined up are the passers-by on the street like myself that take the occasional glance at the barely clad barista.

I was having a conversation with someone close to me recently who was telling me how upset he is about sex trafficking.  “Its horrible” –he almost shouted “and it happens right here!”  The person was fired up- and I agreed.  Yes, its horrible.  And yes it happens right here.  Sex trafficking is perhaps one of the biggest sins and crimes happening every single day perhaps not even a few miles from where you live.  To be sure, we should be concerned with this, bring awareness to the issue, help fight for justice to bring the perpetrators to arrest and set the captives free.

But then I thought of my passing glances at the Lingerie Latte Barista…aren’t I part of the problem too?  Does that girl serving coffee really want to be standing there in her underwear?  Or is she a victim of a bunch of “over-hormoned” men needing both their caffeine and their lust fix in one convenient stop?

We are all part of the problem.  If I am concerned with sex trafficking, and I am, I need to do more than send a $50 check to International Justice Mission once in a while and change my FB status.  I need to change my life.  I need to be concerned with all of my sexuality and the way in which women and children are imprisoned by lust and greed and misplaced sexuality.  And I need to change my gaze.

See, I have 2 daughters.  I hope they grow up in a world where they aren’t concerned with sex trafficking.  But I also don’t want them serving coffee in their underwear.  Why?  Because they are CHILDREN OF GOD and VALUABLE for whom they are, for their connection with their Father God and their service in HIS NAME to the world around them.  They will do things with their lives based on their interests and passions and their calling.  And I hope they have healthy and beautiful relationships with men who love and respect them for who they are, not what they look like when they are in their birthday suits.

Girls, you deserve so much more than being objectified for what your body looks like.  You are valuable and cherished for your character, your soul, and your beliefs. Remember this.  Your God sees you as beautiful for your interior- this is how He created you.

Boys, protect your hearts.  Refrain from the glance at the half-clad barista, the internet nudity, or worse.  Your eyes are a pathway- so feed your soul with good food.  Seek purity and follow God.

Women– raise your children to seek purity and be honored for their real worth- how God created them.  Model this in your homes.  Tell your children they matter for who they are to God- not just how society judges them.

Men– partner with your women to raise your kids in this way- but also set an example.  It isn’t just what we say we value, it is how we actually live our lives.  Guard your eyes- which the bible says are a gateway to our hearts.  Your personal purity will prevent your mind from committing mental or emotional adultery.  And the women and children in your life are listening- but they’re also watching your eyes.  They’re watching what you see on TV, what you look at on the internet, how you look at the body of a passing by woman.  These things matter.  Bono wrote that “I don’t believe in forced entry, I don’t believe in rape, but every time she passes by wild thoughts escape.”  Our minds are as important as our actions.

We start being Christ’s witnesses as we seek purity.  It is a hard journey.  One that I’ve failed at, at times in my life…but it is a journey we must walk.  To set the set the captives free- both from sexual slavery and cultural values that say women are only what they look like.  We can change things…but it takes one glance at a time.  And we can confess when we fall short of our values and aim to start again.  We can confess and change.  We are called to confess and change!  Psalm 32:5 states,
“I acknowledged my sin to You,
and my iniquity I did not hide;
I said, ‘I will confess my transgressions to the Lord’;
And You forgave the guilt of my sin!”

So I have written an apology letter.   And I apologized to my wife.  And I asked for forgiveness from God.  And I am changing…one glance at a time.

Dear Latte Lady:

I’m sorry for casually stealing glances from the street through the barista window when I have driven by.  I will confess that I don’t want to gawk at you only to steal glances of whatever suggestive outfit you are wearing.  I don’t think you are valuable for how you look half clothed.  I think you are valuable for how God made you, full of dreams and relationships and ideals.  Maybe you already know God and know this to be true.  Perhaps you do not.  Either way, by glancing when I drive past, I realize I am part of the problem that has you serving coffee in your underwear.  Today I have resolved not to glance again.  Please don’t take my stony face resolve as anger or distaste for you.  On the contrary, I’m trying to show my kids that my actions matter, that my eyes won’t indulge in women other than their mother.  I want my daughters to know they don’t need to be objectified…they deserve better.  I want my son to know the things he looks at are as important (or more) than what he says he believes.  And I want you to know that when the time is right, you can leave that coffee stand and not look back.  You are worth so much more.  Come to church sometime.  I’d like to meet you, fully clothed, and hear your story. 

Blessings on your journey,



The most beautiful sound in the world

In God's calling,God's great love,The Journey on February 22, 2012 by scottsund Tagged: , , ,

Did you catch the story that resurfaced on FB last week about Joshua Bell, the world-famous violinist?  Joshua Bell, in 2007, played an incognito concert in a crowded subway station. He played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes, one of the pieces was one of the most difficult pieces of music to play on a violin.   You can read more about the story here, but basically, this world-famous concert violinist, playing on a violin worth 3.5 million dollars, who earlier that week had sold out an opera house venue with tickets averaging $100 a seat, played to an empty train station.  In 45 minutes, it was calculated that 1,100 people went through the station walking right past the master musician.  Only 6 people stopped.  He collected $32 in tips.  His longest observer?  A 3-year-old boy.

Sounds like a hoax right?  Or an urban legend? If we’re too busy to slow down and notice beauty, what does it say about us as a society?  What does it say about me as a person?

When I was travelling the country in my van as a 22-year-old kid, I had a similar situation in a subway station in New York City.  I was in the underbelly of the NY Subway in the midst of rush hour and I was stressed and panicked and utterly lost.  People pushed back and forth and everyone else seemed to know exactly where they were going.  In the midst of the rush and bustle and chaos a violinist had set up against a wall and suddenly hit a long and beautiful note.  As the violinist played, it was the most amazing thing: the entire crowd paused.  The note of beauty hung in the air like an anthem and people were stunned by its utter beauty in a place of ugliness.  People looked up to the tiled roof of the station trying to make sense of the beautiful sound so utterly out of context.  It only lasted a quick moment, for as soon as people could categorize the music, then bam! Everyone was off again.  But in that small moment, as the world paused as it heard the music, I was shaken awake.  That note of music was the most beautiful sound in the world at that moment- and the presence of beauty made people pause and listen.

We can miss life if we are rushing through it.  We can walk right by the artistic genius on our appointment to something more “important.”  How much more can it be said that we can miss seeing God in the blinders and bustle of daily life?  We can utterly miss out on the most beautiful life has to offer and the fullest life God created for us in our “rush hour” mindsets.  I’ll confess, this has been my story the last week.   But God longs for us to stop, connect with Him, and be filled up to be a blessing to His world.

Today is Ash Wednesday, the first day of the traditional Lent season that the church uses to prepare for Easter.  Our church is having a service tonight at 7pm if you are in Seattle, but wherever you are, today marks the preparation for Easter.  These are solemn days to reflect back on Christ’s sacrifice on the cross and how our lives might serve as markers to this great Love.  These are also great days to pause, to pray for clarity, and work on slowing down and listening for the music in lives.

Where have you been rushing through the train station when you might have stopped for a while and enjoyed beauty?  What will you do to remind yourself that God loves, you, that Jesus came for you, and that your life is a response?  Paul writes in Ephesians 3:

14-19”My response is to get down on my knees before the Father, this magnificent Father who parcels out all heaven and earth. I ask him to strengthen you by his Spirit—not a brute strength but a glorious inner strength—that Christ will live in you as you open the door and invite him in. And I ask him that with both feet planted firmly on love, you’ll be able to take in with all followers of Jesus the extravagant dimensions of Christ’s love. Reach out and experience the breadth! Test its length! Plumb the depths! Rise to the heights! Live full lives, full in the fullness of God.”

May you have some time today, or this week, to pause.  To listen for God.  To live full lives…full in the fullness of God.  The Maker of music awaits!


Calling part 2: As you take a step…

In God's calling,The Journey on February 15, 2012 by scottsund Tagged: ,

As we’ve continued to discuss seeing God in the “every square inch” of your lives in the last few months, we’ve now established that following God gives us something to be, instead of merely what to do, and that the context of our career is established after we get the first part right.  Remember the words of Jesus: “all of the law hangs on this one command- love God and love others.”  Its more simple than we make it, our calling is to be people who worship God and see Him in the every day and spread that good news out to a world that desperately needs it.

And then, as we have grounded ourselves in our new identity as people of God, in grafted into a new community of faith and hope and love hell-bent on changing the world around us, we can start to think about part 2: but what am I going to “do” with my life.  It’s a huge question.  It’s perhaps the biggest question we grapple with as we go through life.  This question of “what am I going to do with my life” has been reiterated to me in the last few months by single and under-employed 20 year olds, high school kids, mothers who are working at home or working in corporate jobs, men who are working in office jobs or in the field, people who have finished their careers and are now entering retirement or semi-retirement.  My point?  This question of calling haunts us all, male and female, young and old, no matter where we’re at on the journey.  And the driving force behind the question is good: we want to do BIG things with our lives.  We want to make a difference.  We want to have that knowledge that indeed our giftedness has matched up with our purpose and that we can now labor for the Lord.  That is the second part of our calling.   Learning to use our specific gifts in specific contexts to be a blessing to God and to others and find our ultimate joy and meaning.

But how do we get to there from where we are?  We get there one step at a time, learning to enjoy each step of our journey.  We trust that each step has something to teach us, something to reveal to us, as we learn from that step in order to take the next step.  “A journey of a thousand miles starts with a step” is now a cliché hanging on the cheesy poster in the career counselor’s office.  But its true…the nation of Israel took 40 years to get from Egypt to the Promised Land.  Know how far it is from Cairo to Jerusalem?  264 miles.  A fit person can easily walk 20 miles in a day, but keep in mind on the Exodus journey they had possessions and children and old ladies and such.  Even if they walked 12 miles in a day, it would only take the nation of Israel just over 3 weeks to get to the Promised Land.  But it took 40 years!  Why would God take 40 years to deliver them somewhere they could have arrived at inside a month?  God had something to teach them.

As we go on our journeys, each of us has steps to take.  Each of us is in the process of learning how we were made and figuring out how we want to spend our days living out our calling.  Before we take the next step, there are a few thoughts to share.

5 principles of God’s call to remember before taking the next step:

1.         Distinguish Call from Plans:  its difficult to do this, but as I wrote about last post, we can often start to hear from the Lord and instead of the next steps, we start charting next decades.  I like to teach and study English for me became a misguided plan for my life for grad school, teaching on a small campus, leading students.  I had the rest of my life figured out down to the carpet on the retirement home floors (well, not quite) but you get my point.  Listen for God to reveal your call in the things you are good at, the things that the community around you helps you discern, and the opportunities you have been given.  If my test scores and my writing sample don’t get me into a PhD program, perhaps it’s not my call?  Often God works through specific opportunities given to us.

2.         Read the bible for what stepping into God’s call looks like:  The Old Testament is particularly helpful for pictures of what it looks like when real people follow real calls on their life.  Think  of Moses, or Jacob, or David- these were real men that had real calls on their life.  Or Sarah or Ruth or Rebekah or Esther- these were real women that had real calls on their life.  But as you read the bible, and really engage with the stories of what it looks like when people follow their calling, you’ll also be incredibly encouraged that these were real people with real strengths and real weaknesses and that God uses them despite their imperfections.  There is great hope in how God continues to write his greater narrative through the ordinary lives of ordinary people.  But you must open the bible to learn more of this.

3.         Immerse Yourself in Good Influences:  In seasons of discernment, it’s especially important to immerse yourself in good things.  Read the bible, pray, talk to mentors and others, be involved in a small group or church…use these people as your filter so that as opportunities come along, you can get advice from the community around you.  “Do you think this could be a good step for me?” is a question we should be asking those that know us best.

4.          Understand the Imago Dei: do you believe God loves you and is working for your good?  We must see ourselves as His workmanship so that we can trust Him to work within us to lead us on our journey.  Most of us have not heard directly from the Lord.  Most of us don’t get the benefit like Moses of having a burning bush and an audible voice usher us into the call on our lives.  For most of us, its much more simple than that.  But we have to understand that God is good, and that He created us as good, and that he’s not trying to trick us or deceive us.  When we’ve been immersed in His good things (above), we can trust that He will be with us as we take our next steps.

5.         Have the freedom to divorce calling from paycheck:  One of my best friends in the world is called to be an amazing father, an amazing husband, to work in the music industry bringing artists with a positive message into the forefront.  And what does he do for a living?  He sells insurance.  What does insurance have to do with his calling?  Nothing.  And he is totally fine with it.  Don’t get me wrong, he likes insurance.  He is great at selling insurance.  He has figured out that his career is what pays his bills, but his calling is to much larger things.  And he is totally at peace with his decision.  Sometimes we can labor under a false notion that my paycheck and my deepest desires to follow my calling, must be the same thing.  For many, our career isn’t the calling.  Its being Christ blessing within that vocation that is our calling.  For my friend the insurance agent, he might be selling insurance in 10 years.  He might be doing something different.  His calling is to his character and that transcends his vocational piece.  Some of us will get paychecks to do our calling, many others will not.  And that is perfectly fine.

As we take steps, we get the chance to step more and more into God’s bigger picture for our life.  It’s like when runners talk of hitting their stride- this is the point they go from laboring over each movement to actually enjoying the running.  Though it’s tempting to do so and we often fail, we are not to be destination focused or obsessed with the end of the road…we must take joy in the journey.  Step by step by step.